A conversation with punk-rock pastor Jay Bakker of Revolution Church (and son of TV icons Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker) about the innovative work that he is doing with Revolution Church, including a largely online congregation and an invitation for listeners to comment and dispute the sermon afterward; pastoring a church through pain, doubt, and uncertainty; how study and theology led him to affirm LGBTQIA people even if it meant losing everything; re-learning ways to have meaningful relationships with those we disagree with–including those closest to us; and standing steadfast under public scrutiny as the child of a controversial celebrity family. This is absolutely one of our hottest conversations so far!