A rousing conversation the day after our Premiere Live Event at NYC’s Cathedral of St John the Divine, we bring our guests into the studio: David Gungor of the Brilliance, faith futurist Maria French of H&Co, and author and theologian John Thatamanil of Union Theological Seminary. Beginning with our reflections on the previous night’s event, the group launches into a wide-ranging conversation about spirituality, the state of the church in America, politics, capitalism, technology, and some deep theology about the relationship between our desires and our spirituality, and the powerful mythic language that can help us orient those desires toward the good.